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		<title>By: gizzard</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 01:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on Phill_up. But if we put up a big fence, then were just mean old Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on Phill_up. But if we put up a big fence, then were just mean old Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: phill_up</title>
		<link>http://weare344.com/who-is-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator>phill_up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 02:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexicans can live on $13 an hour. They get free health care! While doing work at a hospital I was told that immigrants come to the ER give some bogus name and address and the hospital can never collect. 

I usually get to keep 2/3rds of my check. If I make $25 an hour I bring home $16.66 hr. which isn’t much more than $13. If I had any other deductions like health insurance it wouldn’t take much too actually make less than $13. The employer still pays workers comp, insurance and what ever else on top of the $25. It’s a no-brainer Mexicans are here to do cheap labor and if I were one I would probably sneak over here also

It’s been said that Mexicans are not coming to the USA taking our high tech jobs but are framing houses, roofing, concrete work etc. When the New Grant high school was built there were a lot of bricks that could have been laid by the brick layers union local #5 here in Oklahoma City but it was all done by Mexicans. They are here doing Mechanical, plumbing, electrical and are making some contractor very, very wealthy. We have always been told that they are only doing jobs that Americans won’t do but that statement is untrue. They can &amp; will do it cheaper than Americans. I can’t find blame in desperate people trying to make a penny. At the end of the day it is the employer that is to blame that has hired them and all the big laws we passed to convict these employers were just a joke. How long have we been fighting the war against drugs? Have we won the war against drugs? As long as there is a demand there will always be drugs and cheap labor. You can call crime stoppers about drugs but if you call immigration they don’t even want to hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexicans can live on $13 an hour. They get free health care! While doing work at a hospital I was told that immigrants come to the ER give some bogus name and address and the hospital can never collect. </p>
<p>I usually get to keep 2/3rds of my check. If I make $25 an hour I bring home $16.66 hr. which isn’t much more than $13. If I had any other deductions like health insurance it wouldn’t take much too actually make less than $13. The employer still pays workers comp, insurance and what ever else on top of the $25. It’s a no-brainer Mexicans are here to do cheap labor and if I were one I would probably sneak over here also</p>
<p>It’s been said that Mexicans are not coming to the USA taking our high tech jobs but are framing houses, roofing, concrete work etc. When the New Grant high school was built there were a lot of bricks that could have been laid by the brick layers union local #5 here in Oklahoma City but it was all done by Mexicans. They are here doing Mechanical, plumbing, electrical and are making some contractor very, very wealthy. We have always been told that they are only doing jobs that Americans won’t do but that statement is untrue. They can &amp; will do it cheaper than Americans. I can’t find blame in desperate people trying to make a penny. At the end of the day it is the employer that is to blame that has hired them and all the big laws we passed to convict these employers were just a joke. How long have we been fighting the war against drugs? Have we won the war against drugs? As long as there is a demand there will always be drugs and cheap labor. You can call crime stoppers about drugs but if you call immigration they don’t even want to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://weare344.com/who-is-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-1399</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;but who the hell can live on $13 an hour????&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Yeah I chuckled when I read the story</description>
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<p>Yeah I chuckled when I read the story</p>
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		<title>By: Bkwoods</title>
		<link>http://weare344.com/who-is-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-1398</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who do you know that can live on $6.15 per hour? It’s not a living wage and I’m not sure it was intended to be a living wage.

Not even the beggars at the intersections can make it on $6.15 per hour. There was an article in the daily fish wrap about Hobby Lobby giving pay raises to those employees who make up to $13 an hour..........not to be a jerk, but who the hell can live on $13 an hour????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who do you know that can live on $6.15 per hour? It’s not a living wage and I’m not sure it was intended to be a living wage.</p>
<p>Not even the beggars at the intersections can make it on $6.15 per hour. There was an article in the daily fish wrap about Hobby Lobby giving pay raises to those employees who make up to $13 an hour&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.not to be a jerk, but who the hell can live on $13 an hour????</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://weare344.com/who-is-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;McDonalds may also exploit Mexicans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Around three years ago a Mexican family that owns several McDonalds bought the one in Mustang. They bulldozed the existing building a built a brand spanking new McDonalds. When they reopened the workforce was around 95% mexican, quite a big difference to what it was before.

Just always found that to be a little interesting</description>
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<p>Around three years ago a Mexican family that owns several McDonalds bought the one in Mustang. They bulldozed the existing building a built a brand spanking new McDonalds. When they reopened the workforce was around 95% mexican, quite a big difference to what it was before.</p>
<p>Just always found that to be a little interesting</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who do you know that can live on $6.15 per hour? It&#039;s not a living wage and I&#039;m not sure it was intended to be a living wage.

My official opinion starts here&gt;&gt; It is intended to be a starting wage for somebody just entering the workforce i.e. a student or teenager. Or, as a supplemental income, i.e.. an untrained spouse or as a second or third job.

Now after saying that... the higher the minimum wage is set, the higher the &quot;official good wages&quot; become... does that make sense? Kind of how our wages set the wages for non-union.

This should be a good topic. You certainly have a way of digging deeper and getting us all stirred up :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who do you know that can live on $6.15 per hour? It&#8217;s not a living wage and I&#8217;m not sure it was intended to be a living wage.</p>
<p>My official opinion starts here>> It is intended to be a starting wage for somebody just entering the workforce i.e. a student or teenager. Or, as a supplemental income, i.e.. an untrained spouse or as a second or third job.</p>
<p>Now after saying that&#8230; the higher the minimum wage is set, the higher the &#8220;official good wages&#8221; become&#8230; does that make sense? Kind of how our wages set the wages for non-union.</p>
<p>This should be a good topic. You certainly have a way of digging deeper and getting us all stirred up <img src='http://weare344.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: phill_up</title>
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		<dc:creator>phill_up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McDonalds may also exploit Mexicans.
  
You guys are making some good points here. I remember about four years ago having lunch with a large group of union members and the topic of increasing the minimum wage came up. I was surprised at how many of our members were against the minimum wage increase then.  Some people think that the minimum wage should stay low so that a person will try harder to excel and get away from the low pay. thoughts?</description>
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<p>You guys are making some good points here. I remember about four years ago having lunch with a large group of union members and the topic of increasing the minimum wage came up. I was surprised at how many of our members were against the minimum wage increase then.  Some people think that the minimum wage should stay low so that a person will try harder to excel and get away from the low pay. thoughts?</p>
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